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I've only been inside the Fox Theatre one time in my life and I had a feeling then that it was a magical place. My cousin and I went to see Jeff Foxworthy tell some You Might Be a Redneck Jokes sometime around 1994 when we were in high school. Don't hold it against me please. I've always wanted to go back to the Fox at some point although I just haven't had the opportunity.
I got directed to a fascinating story this morning about a man named Joe Patten that lives in an apartment hidden in the Fox Theatre. Over the past hour, I've clicked on story after story after learning that the Fox Theatre wants Mr. Patten to sign a new lease which could terminate his stay at the Fox.
Patten, formerly the theater's technical director, has lived in a 3,640-square-foot apartment rent-free for 30 years. The lease, signed in December 1979, said he could remain there for life.
That lease could be terminated if Patten became permanently disabled for 180 days or more and a panel of three doctors said he should be hospitalized. The lease also could be terminated if Atlanta Landmarks, the nonprofit that runs the Fox, does so by a two-thirds vote.
That's what happened at a closed meeting Monday afternoon.The board issued Patten a new lease, one that says he can live there "as long as he is able."Vella said that means "when Joe needs significantly more care," such as live-in aide.
I'm not sure about the legality of forcing a new lease upon him if he had signed a lease allowing him a life long agreement. A group of folks have started a wonderful Facebook page titled Save Joe the Phantom of the Fox in support of allowing Mr. Patten to stay in the Fox under his current agreement.
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Elder care is a touchy subject. However, I believe that we must honor the wishes of the individual to live how they choose. As we grow older we should be able to enjoy our lives. In this case it appears the Fox would not even exist today without Mr. Patten's tender care of this facility over the past thirty years. A new lease reeks of ageism as Mr. Patten appears to be in good health and has plenty of friends and family willing to assist him. We also learned that originally that someone associated with the Fox essentially sent Patten a letter saying he needed to leave. The decision to ask Mr. Patten that seems cold and callous. Furthermore, the Fox theater seems to have created a public relations nightmare.
We will keep you posted as this story progresses. In the meantime we hope you will join the facebook page and learn more about Joe Patten.
The third installment from Edward Sebesta in The League of the South While Cecil Williamson Was a Member series. Cecil Williamson is the current City Council President of Selma, Alabama which is a predominantly African American city. He has refused to resign in light of revelations about his past association with the League of the South a recognized hate group.This edition focuses on the Leagues praise for George Wallace the Segregationist, an the attempt to create a new Southern Party and criticism of the 14th Amendment (equal protection). .
By no means have I exhaustively covered the extremism of the League of the South, but I merely mention highlights of some of their more outrageous and easy to explain items. In the next installment I will cover some highlights of the League of the South web page.
In Vol. 5 No. 5, Sept. - Oct. 1998, the Southern Patriot eulogized George Wallace, but not the Wallace who regretted his stand for segregation, but the George Wallace, who defiantly stood for segregation. Also, the Christian Reconstructionism of the League of the South is explicitly stated. Note, that the League of the South adopted its own spellings for words. For example it doesn't like the letter "z" and thinks British spelling is more authentically Southern.
League President Hill explains that the goal is to have a Christian republic, in an article "Christian Southerners" explaining:
To do otherwise than first seek to serve our God and Creator in the cause of a Southern Republic would place us on no higher ground than 'those people,' and would betray not only our Lord but also the memory of our Confederate ancestors. From the beginning, the League has charted a course far more ambitious (and dangerous) than the run-of-the-mill conservative organisation. Indeed, we envisioned ourselves as a movement whose end was not self-perpetuation and self-aggrandisement, but the establishment of a republic based on the Christian principles of our Confederate ancestors. Where else in all this modern, progressive world is there a movement to establish such a republic? Nowhere, of course. We are the only people labouring to do what our Christian forefathers once attempted to do. Let us not become some policy-driven conservative organisation that seeks salvation in politics, nor some emasculated spiritual lap-dog such as the Christian Coalition. Rather, let us 'play the men' the same way our forebears did when faced with overwhelming odds. Like them, we should put our trust in the Lord and His glory at the heart of our cause and then move ahead with the courage of the faithful to confront the enemy that stands before us.
There are those in the Southern independence movement who would prefer that we leave the Christian element out of our drive for independence. We might as well leave the principles of Lee, Jackson, Stuart, and Davis out of that inspiration which we derive from the Confederacy. These were men whose every action was moved by a belief in God's sovereignty and His covenantal promises. By pledging ourselves to the League's objective of freeing the South from an ungodly Jacobin regime, we become parties to that covenant. Thus we bear a great responsibility to the generation of Southerners that will follow us.
Over the past few days, I saw comments from a number of Alaska political observers that believed Scott McAdams would immediately benefit once Joe Miller officially became the Republican nominee. They were spot on according to the most recent poling numbers.
Last night, Rasmussen polled Alaska voters after learning of the Lisa Murkowski concession speech.
The latest statewide telephone survey of Likely Voters shows Miller attracting 50% of the vote, while McAdams earns support from 44%. Four percent (4%) prefer some other candidate and two percent (2%) are undecided.
This survey was conducted Tuesday night just hours after incumbent GOP Senator Lisa Murkowski conceded the Republican nomination during a recount of the August 24 primary. Miller, a lawyer and military veteran, benefited from support from the state's former governor Sarah Palin and Tea Party activists.
Ninety percent (90%) of Democrats back McAdams while 79% of Republicans throw their vote behind Miller. McAdams holds a 22-point lead among voters not affiliated with either major political party.
Rasmussen moved this race from Solidly Republican to Leans Republican which is certainly positive movement for the Democrats. The low number of undecideds are jumping out as something that concerns me at the moment. A poll from last week, performed by Public Policy Polling , showed Miller leading McAdams by 8 points (47-39 with 14 % undecided).
Now the caveat is that I haven't see the polling questions to offer an more in-depth analysis of the format. This is welcomed news for the Democrats and the McAdams camp. We love this race because of it's underdog nature and all the story lines.
Miller leads Democratic nominee Scott McAdams 47-39. McAdams benefits from a more united party, getting 81% of the Democratic vote to Miller's 73% of the Republicans. The candidates split even with independents at 42%, a good number for Democrats in a year where their candidates are largely getting blown out with that group of voters.
The League of the South While Cecil Williamson Was a Member Part II by Edward Sebesta
Continuation of yesterday's article about how the League of South is much more than an "academic exercise". This article discusses more controversial neo-Confederacy writings such as those where League members condemn Brown vs. Board of Education.
Vol. 2 No. 4 issue of the "Southern Patriot" is notable for including an article by Jared Taylor 'Why We Revere Our Confederate Ancestors" reprinted from his Sons of Confederate Veterans camp newsletter, and the same issue recommends reading Jared Taylor's publication American Renaissance
The League of the South tells its members:
Jared Taylor's monthly newsletter, "American Renaissance," provides hard hitting analysis of largely ignored racial issues. "American Renaissance" pulls no punches in its discussions of black-on-white crime, racial IQ differences, the ills of affirmative action, and current immigration policies. Not for the timed or faint-hearted.
I can assure you that if you go to the website for American Renaissance you will find that this description to be entirely accurate, it is a rabid racist publication that is indeed not for the timid or faint-hearted.
In Vol. 2 No. 5, Sept. - Oct. 1995, Thomas Woods', famed author, in an article denounces the abolitionists as "fanatics" with "a tendency towards extremism." Williamson stated that "and at first it seemed to be academic exercise about Southern independence, and they wrote a series of articles about Southern independence now, not about the 1860s." but the League of the South did focus on the 19th century, abolitionism, the Civil War and Reconstruction. Thomas Woods has this web page , where he, like Cecil Williamson, is trying to omit his neo-Confederate past. I have this web page to make sure his extensive neo-Confederate writings aren't forgotten.
The gun wielding Jefferson County Domestic Relations Judge Suzanne Childers announced today she is joining the Republican party. Faux News made her do it apparently.
Childers said Tuesday that she started watching the conservative-oriented Fox News Channel and increasingly found herself agreeing with what its commentators said.
Childers continues
"It's been a gradual progression," Childers said. "I have become more and more aware that my values, principles and ideas are more parallel with the Republican Party."
In a statement, Childers said the switch was "in the people's" best interest.
"It's in the people's best interest if I remain a judge," she said when asked to explain her statement.
1. A fire destroys all voting machines in Harris County (Houston, Texas). A right wing voter suppression group emerges. Read about it at DogCanyon.Org .
In other details, the suppression campaigns follow a familiar pattern: raise suspicions of widespread voter fraud. Accuse "others" of stealing elections from us (read: white people). Threaten would-be voters with criminal charges. Limit polling locations in poor and minority precincts. Distribute spurious "felon lists" that disenfranchise legal voters who happen to share a name with a felon. Staff phone banks that make election calls to minority and poor voters giving incorrect polling locations and dates. Dress up vigilantes in cop clothes to intimidate would-be voters.
Regular Huffington Post contributor Greg Mitchell wrote one of the best accounts of such a suppression and intimidation campaign in his book about the 1934 California governor's race, The Campaign of the Century. At least since then, voter suppression has been a part of nearly every election cycle.
There are simply no machines available to replace the loss of Houston's machines. That means either a return to paper ballots (there may be very few scanners to count them) or a greatly reduced number of polling locations. The latter would require the emergency suspension of state law and run afoul of the Voting Rights Act. In any case, confusion will reign, and confusion reduces turnout.
2. Sen. Orrin Hatch supports the rights of those wanting to build the Park51 project. Better than that he actually takes the most honorable position here.
HATCH: Let's be honest about it, in the First Amendment, religious freedom, religious expression, that really express matters to the Constitution. So, if the Muslims own that property, that private property, and they want to build a mosque there, they should have the right to do so. The only question is are they being insensitive to those who suffered the loss of loved ones? We know there are Muslims killed on 9/11 too and we know it's a great religion. ... But as far as their right to build that mosque, they have that right.
I just think what's made this country great is we have religious freedom. That's not the only thing, but it's one of the most important things in the Constitution. [...]
There's a question of whether it's too close to the 9/11 area, but it's a few blocks away, it isn't right there. ... And there's a huge, I think, lack of support throughout the country for Islam to build that mosque there, but that should not make a difference if they decide to do it. I'd be the first to stand up for their rights.
"Williamson said he was a member when the group organized about two decades ago."
"It was organized more as an academic exercise by people who were professors, primarily," Williamson said. "They were men who taught at The University of Alabama, South Carolina, Georgia, and at first it seemed to be academic exercise about Southern independence, and they wrote a series of articles about Southern independence now, not about the 1860s. I was a member of the League of the South for about eight years, and then when I started law school in 2001, ..." "I have not belonged to the League of the South since 2001. And, of course, there was a split in the League of the South between those who wanted to make it more political, those who seemed to want to make it more radical, certainly more than I wanted it to be."
From these statements Williamson was involved from the time the League of the South organized in 1994, the beginning, to the time he quit in 2001, which would be about eight years.
Williamson's statements and claims about the League of the South are greatly at variance with the facts about the League of the South and he misrepresents what the League of the South was. The only thing that is true in his statement was that the League of the South had a lot of professors involved, which should warn African Americans about what they might run into at the universities.
I emailed Leesha Faulkner about the League of the South as a subject matter expert in the field. I am one of the editors of "Neo-Confederacy: A Critical Introduction," pub. Univ. of Texas Press, 2008, excerpts , and "The Confederate and Neo-Confederate Reader: The 'Great Truth' about the 'Lost Cause,'" I told them that I was going to inform people about the true record of the League of the South and what Williamson had said was not true. However, the "Selma Times-Journal" doesn't seem to be interested.
The League of the South was a racist organization from the beginning dedicated to a program of secession and rolling back the civil rights movement and establishing a hierarchal society where people would be subordinated to where the League of the South thought they should be. It had academic support, but was by no means merely a theoretical exploration of an issue, but was an organization with a plan to change society in the former Confederate states.
I think the best way to give the reader an understanding of what the League of the South was about, would be to quote members of the League of the South themselves. Also, I am going to give examples at length. The reason for this is that if I don't give numerous and different examples, I think Williamson will come up with new excuses to evade responsibility for his actions.
If I give just a few examples, Williamson will say that they were a few rogue articles that slipped in the newsletter or website, or that he missed them. If I refer to web pages, Williamson might say he just read the newsletter and vice versa. I won't bother with material from the year 2000, since Williamson will say that is why he quit. I am going to document a lot of material so that no one can reasonably think that Williamson didn't know what the group was about.
The League of the South published the "Southern Patriot," a newsletter when they first started out till 2006 at least. The first issue was Vol. 1 No.1, dated Sept.-Oct. 1994 and is fairly indicative of what type of organization is. The League of the South used to have some of the contents, but not all, of the "Southern Patriot," online, but some of them are still online at the internet archive. Vol. 1 No. 1, online version, is at the internet archive at this URL
Note: Sometimes the Internet Archives servers face heavy demand and struggle, so wait or go back later.
The first article in the issue is the president's message, and the first paragraph is the following:
When Attorney-General Janet Reno dispatched "negotiators" from the Justice Department to the sleepy hamlet of Ovett, Mississippi, last year, she sent a message to traditional Southerners; you have no right to protect your community from unwanted intrusions by federally protected "victim" groups. In this case the victim group was the cadre of Camp Sister Spirit, a pig farm cum lesbian retreat in the rural southeastern portion of the state. Big Sister Reno informed the good citizens of Jones County that further resistance to the deviants would bring forth the federal hordes. Unfortunately, this is not the first message sent Southerners by Reno's thugs; an earlier one came at Waco and decreed that we may not voluntarily separate ourselves from society and hold unorthodox religious (or social or political) beliefs. To drive home their point, the BATF and FBI murdered almost a hundred men, women, and children in this invasion of Southern soil. Will the good people of Wedowee in Randolph County, Alabama, who wish merely to educate their children without interference from the justice or education departments, be the next target of the Reno storm troopers? It would appear that after more than a century since the First Reconstruction the South is still occupied territory held within the Union by brute force, impoverishment, and bribery.
For those who don't remember the controversy of Camp Sister Spirit was, it was reported that the camp was the subject of violent physical attacks. Regardless of what one might think of Camp Sister Spirit, most people, except extremists, don't endorse violence as a means of expressing dislike. However, Dr. Michael Hill does in this article, the attackers are "traditional southerners" "protecting their community." Also, this paragraph is hardly a discussion of academic discussion of secession, rather than a rant of a militia or extremist group.
Hill does bring up the issue of secession in his article, but it is offered as a solution to Hill's lengthy complaint about the government, the "New World Order," and secular society. Secession is offered, from the beginning in the League of the South, as a means to establish an extreme right-wing regime that "would better reflect the natural conservatism and God-fearing world-view of the South," with for example, "church-state relations would without question be different." In short, as you read the entire article, you realize that Hill would like to make the whole south a right wing compound of some sort.
Hill's article makes it quite clear that the purpose of the League of the South is not some theoretical, hypothetical discussion of secession but the program of a extreme right wing group wanting to break up the United States to form their right wing nation.
The
third article by Jeffrey Tucker, of Auburn, Alabama, is a defense of Hulon Humphries, the Randolph County High School principal who was reported as saying that a mixed race student was a mistake, and the article is an attack on anyone who opposed Hulon Humphries racism complaining about outsiders and the media.
Some quotes where Tucker complains about the Federal government
But why is the FBI involved in the first place? Probably not a day passes in America where an arsonist somewhere does not burn a building. And if you are searching for racial conflict, any Northern city provides more than most Southerners could imagine in their worst nightmares. A Wedowee citizen penned a sign that summarizes the lop-sided attention his community was receiving: "Clinton and Reno dictate Wedowee media coverage."
And:
The U.S. Justice Department, which has taken to "investigating" every minor social disturbance in the South, demanded that Mr. Humphries be fired. Clint Bolick of the Institute of Justice agreed, calling Mr. Humphries "fair game." Under duress, the school board complied. But surely, even "South Haters" can agree that allowing the central state to tell a tiny community whom it can hire as its high school principal stretches statism too far.
The Vol. Nol. 1 lists the organization of the founding members into five working committees. The names are worth reviewing.
For the Political Action team there is Ron Kennedy and Donnie Kennedy, the neo-Confederate twins who have written a series of neo-Confederate books, like "The South Was Right!" in which the Voting Rights Act is denounced as a fraud. They have a Website and Walter Donald Kennedy is an author that has proposed that the Republican Party of Lincoln was some type of communist conspiracy.
For the Correspondence Committee is Michael Andrew Grissom, author of "Southern by the Grace of God," a book that praises the KKK of both Reconstruction and the 1920s, and portrays a lynching in Oklahoma as a heroic act. Thomas Fleming is also a member of this committee, you can read Fleming's writing at Chronicles Magazine
On the Finance Committee is J. Steven Wilkens, co-author of a book, "Southern Slavery As It Was," which defends slavery.
In Vol. 1 No. 2 J. Steven Wilkens' explains how the Civil War was really a religious war, in his article, "Theology of the South." Wilkens' quotes R. L. Dabney to explain the real meaning of the Civil War as follows:
The theological disagreement lay at the bottom of the political conflict. To many Southerners, the defence of the Southern Cause became equivalent to a defense of Christendom itself. The Southern preacher, professor, and theologian James H. Thornwell gave this analysis of the controversy in his Fast Day Sermon of 1860: "The parties in this conflict are not merely Abolitionists and slave holders, they are Atheists, Socialists, Communists, Red Republicans, Jacobins on the one side and the friends of order and regulated freedom on the other. In one word, the world is the battle ground, Christianity and Atheism the combatants, and the progress of humanity the stake."
This view of the Civil War is widely held by neo-Confederates. Professor Euan Hague and I had and article published on the topic at the University of Toronto, which you can read online here
The book, "The South Was Right," which complains about Reconstruction and denounces the Voting Rights Act is promoted on page 15. This book by the way has sold over 100,000 copies and is still widely sold in mainstream bookstores today.
In the same issue President Hill lauds southerners who refuse "to genuflect each January to the memory of "Dr." King. In another article Clyde Wilson in discussing the south states that southerners didn't make a "fetish" of democracy and equality. Hostility to civil rights isn't just in articles that directly address the topic, but exist in numerous small comments in the "Southern Patriot."
Vol. 2 No. 1 issue has more on civil rights. Michael Hill explains how civil rights is used to attack the South.
... the New Deal began six decades of tyranny by federal judges and other social meddlers who ransacked the Constitution in the name of civil rights.
And:
The next step, once sufficient numbers were dependent upon the federal government, was for Washington to demand compliance with its dictates. The "Second Reconstruction" began with the use of civil rights to emasculate the states through the Fourteenth Amendment's doctrine of incorporation.
Michael Hill, further explains to the readers that civil rights is a destruction of the Federal system of government explaining.
The latest stage in the nationalization of government and the destruction of our original confederal system occurred in the 1950's and 1960's. During these decades the government moved into the South under judicial decree and destroyed the social fabric of communities in the name of civil rights. By taking control of school and voting districts and by making private property (lunch counters and other so-called "public accommodations") subject to federal regulation, Washington forced the retreat of many Southerners from their public duties and responsibilities. These "old Southerners" took shelter in the safety of family, church, and other privatea ssociations. having lost control and influence in the public sphere, they dedicated themselves to the private one, a sphere that was only to shrink further, in scope as the latest stage of tyranny played itself out in the following decades. We now have witnessed government encroachment into strictly private associations--families, churches, privates chools, clubs, etc. The consequent immoral and unlawful meddling by federal judges and the atrocities committed by renegade law enforcement agencies serve to emphasize the fact that no inner sanctum remains.
More ominously Hill sees the future as filled with racial conflict explaining:
Competition among cultural groups seeking the resources to survive and prosper is natural and proper. To deny this by asserting the silly slogan, "the brotherhood of man," is cultural suicide; it will not eliminate the competition, but will lull us into acquiescing in our own destruction. Our forefathers would be appalled at our hesitation to defend our birthright.
In the same issue Thomas Woods, the now famous author, denounces the 14th amendment and its use to support civil rights. This same issue in the section, "Noteworthy publication," promotes Michael Andrew Grissom's books, "Southern by the Grace of God," "The Last Rebel Yell," and "When the South Was Southern." The first book as I have stated before praises the KKK and endorses lynching as a heroic act of Ada, Oklahoma. The Black Commentator, an online publication, has an article detailing the contents of "Southern by the Grace of God"
The "Last Rebel Yell" attacks civil rights and defends slavery. One section of the book claims that African American slaves,when their children were sold away with the breakup of a plantation, really weren't all that upset by their children being sold, and instead were mostly upset at the breakup of the plantation. Also, promoted is Sprinkle Publications, the publishers of books of pro-slavery theologians.
This is an installment of a series that will discuss the League of the South and explore their teachings and public writings. The League of the South has been described by members as an "academic exercise." We believe that it is much more and that it should properly be labeled a hate group.
We have been discussing the League of the South as Selma City Council President Cecil Williamson has been noted as a former member. Williamson was criticized for attending a birthday celebration for KKK founder Nathan Bedford Forrest. This past week, a resolution presented to the Selma City Council asked for Williamson to be removed as City Council President due to his associations with a racist hate group. The resolution failed and only received two votes from members of the City Council.
The following article is written by Edward Sebesta , a leading national researcher on the Neo-Confederacy movement. The article highlights attacks on Martin Luther King, beliefs in secession and the "treason of the Left". Sebesta also notes that the League opposes pubic schools. The article is written in academic form with footnotes as sources which points us to a wide assortment of public writings. These writings prove that the League of the South was always an extremist organization and that Williamson is being dishonest when he says otherwise.
I get a lot of requests to produce Alabama centric material. Although we are primarily a national interests and elections blog we do try and aim to please our readers. You are welcome to write updates about what is going on in any state.
1. Here's a funny ad from a State House Challenger - Joe Hubbard which a lot of Dems running in tough districts might want to take a page from.
2. Yesterday somewhere between 1,500 to 2,000 attended a Jobs and Justice rally in Montgomery. While the rally was billed by some as a voter registration drive, it featured elected officials and other leaders who were critical of Gov. Bob Riley closing electronic bingo operations in Alabama. The rally also featured music by John Anderson and The Commodores sans Lionel Ritchie.
3. Meanwhile we saw a sign of life in the lethargic Gubernatorial race as Dr. Robert Bentley (R) and Ron Sparks (D) debated for 90 minutes in the thriving metropolis of Arab, Alabama. I'm sure Arab is a lovely place, but just not expected to be the place where the Gubernatorial candidates wake up the electorate.
Sounds like a nice exchange between Dr. Bentley and Sparks on the Governor's salary which Bentley has pledged to forgo until people are put back to work.
Bentley called the state's pressing economic crisis, in which more than 200,000 Alabamians are unemployed, his top priority as governor and pledged again not to take a salary until the state puts most of those people back to work.
Sparks shook his head at Bentley and told the crowd: "I want it understood. I'm going to take the salary. I'm a working man. I have a house payment to make and grandchildren to help put through college."
That was a shot at Bentley, who is a physician and who was able to loan his campaign for governor $2 million.
Good news out of Alaska via Swing State Project . Really encouraging that in a two way race right now Joe Miller only leads Scott McAdams by 8 points 47-39 with 14 % percent undecided.
Murkowski, as expected, would trounce McAdams but in all likelihood Miller will be the Republican nominee. Now if Murkowski runs as a Libertarian it's a much different ballgame and anybody's guess.
From the Public Policy Polling memo
Joe Miller's surprising victory in Tuesday's Republican Senate primary has given Democrats at least a glimmer of hope in Alaska, although that would fade if the defeated Lisa Murkowski ends up running in the general election as the Libertarian candidate.
Miller leads Democratic nominee Scott McAdams 47-39. McAdams benefits from a more united party, getting 81% of the Democratic vote to Miller's 73% of the Republicans. The candidates split even with independents at 42%, a good number for Democrats in a year where their candidates are largely getting blown out with that group of voters.
In a three way race with Murkowski running as a Libertarian Miller would still lead but with only 38% to 34% for Murkowski and 22% for McAdams. The folks who go for Murkowski favor McAdams 47-23 in a two way contest so somewhat counterintuitively she would actually hurt Democratic chances even though she'd de facto make it a race with 2 Republicans and a Democrat.
Murkowski's 50/43 approval spread still makes her one of the more popular Senators in the country in PPP's polling but her 52% support from Democrats is actually better than her 47% with Republicans, speaking to the trouble she had in Tuesday's primary. Miller is unpopular with 36% of voters seeing him favorably and 52% negatively. McAdams is still largely anonymous with 53% of voters offering no opinion about him.
So while we definitely don't want Miller as a U.S. Senator, by winning this primary he opened the door for Scott McAdams. The Republican Party will be forced to spend much more money in Alaska
than anticipated.
Again Michele Bachmann has no respect for the truth . As if we should expect anything less. As her mouth moves the lies are immediately spewed
On a day when crowd estimates could provide their respective groups with political clout, Bachmann asked her audience how many thought more than 1 million people were in attendance. The question was met by big cheers from the gathering of about 1,000. "We're not going let anyone get away with saying there were less than a million here today because we were witnesses," Bachmann said.
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