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Capitol Hill News Open Thread

by: Casual Wednesday

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Fri Dec 18, 2009 at 15:21:40 PM CST


Good afternoon, Progressive Electorate readers. This is your afternoon open thread to discuss all things Hill-related. Use this thread to praise or bash Congresscritters, share a juicy tip, ask questions, offer critiques and suggestions, or post manifestos. We'll be checking in all weekend, especially if the snowpocalypse hits.

As always, this is a crosspost from Congress Matters.

Here are some of my own thoughts.

Casual Wednesday :: Capitol Hill News Open Thread
It's looking like the Senate is putting in hours that would make even the most dedicated graduate student wince.

The Senate voted 63-33 to limit debate on the 2010 defense appropriations bill in the early hours of the morning Friday.

The $636.3 billion defense bill was passed Wednesday by the House, and in addition to war funds carries the extension of several soon-to-expire policies, ranging from unemployment aid and healthcare benefits to the anti-terrorism law known as the Patriot Act.

The bill now heads for a 7:30 a.m. Saturday vote in the Senate after Friday's 1:30 a.m. cloture vote, according to Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.).

And if you were watching C-Span just before 2 a.m. today, you probably saw a very bored and rather irritated looking Senator Franken presiding.

Speaking of which, I assume that everyone has seen this:

Here's the story from The Hill.

And we have this little reminder from Think Progress: Flashback: McCain Refused To Grant 30 Seconds Of Time During Iraq War Debate

I have mixed feeling about this. Yes, it was refreshing to hear Franken tell Lieberman to STFU. And yes, Harry Reid was trying to move things along. And yes, there is almost no actual persuasion happening during those Floor debates. But it still seemed a little petty and I thought we were leaving petty to the Republicans.

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At the global warming summit in Copenhagen, negotiators are considering dropping language that would establish a binding treaty.

With time running out to forge a comprehensive climate agreement, negotiators at the U.N.-sponsored talks are considering a new draft agreement that would not require a binding treaty by 2010 but would lay the groundwork for a more ambitious target in limiting the rise of temperatures around the globe.

The decision to remove the 2010 deadline is significant, because scientists have warned that the longer nations wait to make deep greenhouse gas emission cuts, the harder it will be to avert dangerous climate change.

Considering treaties require two-thirds majority for Senate ratification and considering we can't even convince Republicans to support the troops, this might not be the worst news in the world. In fact, the worst news in the world would be if China were to refuse to cooperate.

Breaking as of just before publication: They have reached a deal

"Developed and developing countries have now agreed to listing their national actions and commitments, a finance mechanism, to set a mitigation target of 2 degrees Celsius and to provide information on the implementation of their actions through national communications, with provisions for international consultations and analysis under clearly defined guidelines," the official said. "No country is entirely satisfied with each element, but this is a meaningful and historic step forward and a foundation from which to make further progress."

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In other treaty news, the United States and Russia are close to a deal to cut stockpiles of nuclear weapons.

START expired on Dec. 5; the two countries have been operating on an interim agreement since. The new version of Start would require each side to reduce deployed strategic nuclear warheads to roughly 1,600, down from 2,200, administration officials said. It would also force each side to reduce its strategic bombers and land and sea-based missiles to below 800, down from the old limit of 1,600. The remaining issues to be resolved center on verification, American officials said.

Still, that should leave both sides plenty of nukes to destroy the world several times over and if the GOP blocks this, we can ask why they hate the planet so much.

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On the health care front, Senator Ben Nelson's concerns run deeper than just the Coathanger Amendment. He might just be concern trolling, though.

Nebraska Sen. Ben Nelson, the final Democratic hold-out on health-care reform legislation, said Thursday that his opposition to the bill extends beyond the use of federal subsidies for abortion-covering plans to the impact that expanding Medicaid will have on the finances of his home state.

A Medicaid expansion would "create an underfunded federal mandate for the state of Nebraska," Nelson told a Nebraska radio station. Instead of mandating that Medicaid cover everyone up to a certain level, as the House and Senate bills now do, he argued that states should be permitted to "opt out" and find other means of covering their poorest residents.

Health-care policy experts say that Nelson's concerns have little basis -- and that, in fact, Nebraska could make out better at the end of the day than many other states.

In fact, his "real" reason for opposing reform may be that he "understands the real meaning of Christmas."

The good news is that the RWNJ rumor that the White House threatened to close an airbase in Nebraska to get Nelson to vote for the bill is a load of crap.

And finally: If the White House wanted to put pressure on Nelson, threatening to, as Goldfarb put it, "put Nebraska's Offutt Air Force Base on the BRAC list" is just about the least effective way they could do so. See, BRAC -- the Base Realignment and Closure process -- just doesn't work that way.

On the other side of the aisle, so to speak, invokes Tom Petty. No they "Won't Back Down."

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) blasted Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) Friday morning for speeding a major healthcare overhaul through the upper chamber before Christmas.

McConnell and senior Republican Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) said the speed and secrecy Democrats have used to move such a massive reform is unprecedented.

~snip

McConnell made clear that he does not plan to back down next week. His tough stance makes it more likely that the Senate will vote late in the day on Dec. 24 to pass the healthcare bill if Democrats are to meet their Christmas deadline.

As if to prove their point: Republicans threaten another health care read-a-thon

Surprised?

*crickets chirping

And then, there's the Liberal uprising.

Stung by the intense White House effort to court the votes of moderate holdouts like Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, independent of Connecticut, and Senator Ben Nelson, Democrat of Nebraska, liberals are signaling that they have compromised enough. Grass-roots groups are balking, liberal commentators are becoming more critical of the president, some unions are threatening to withhold support and Howard Dean, the former Democratic Party chief, is urging the Senate to kill its health bill.

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Remember the fight over hate crimes legislation? Now we have this news: Federal Hate Crime Cases at Highest Level Since '01

Two days after the Justice Department announced federal indictments related to the fatal beating of a Mexican immigrant in Shenandoah, Pa., federal authorities said the charges were part of a larger effort to step up civil rights enforcement after nearly eight years of decreased hate crime prosecutions.

Thomas E. Perez, head of the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division, said the department brought more federal hate crime cases this year than in any other year since 2001.

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It's not Congress news, but this is important. Iran briefly took control of an Iraqi oil field today.

Iranian soldiers briefly took control of an oil field Friday near the border in southern Iraq in an incident that Iraqi officials called a "provocation."

The Iranian troops took down an Iraqi flag that flew at the Fakka oil field and replaced it with an Iranian one, according to Gen. Habib al-Hussaini, who commands the Iraqi army division responsible for the area.

"They stayed for a few hours, and then they left," Hussaini said in a telephone interview.

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Talking Points Memo has the video of Dylan Ratigan getting into it with Rep. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz. Personally, I liked her response.

There's not much point in having me on if you're not going to let me respond.

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The US is sending six Gitmo detainees to Yemen.

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In Maine, a state legislator has quit the GOP over the party's "inability" to solve the health care crisis. I think the correct word is "unwilling."

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The real battle in 2011 is going to be over redistricting.

Like politicians across the nation in both parties, Clark has begun planning for the states' decennial redistricting of their congressional boundaries. That process will not formally start until 2011, after April's census count yields the December 2010 announcement of the state-by-state reapportionment of the House for the next decade.

Clark is confident that Republicans will control the process in Indiana under the leadership of GOP Gov. Mitch Daniels, given their party's expectation that it will hold the state Legislature after next November's election. Clark's preparations are a stark warning to Democratic Reps. Brad Ellsworth and Baron Hill in the state's southernmost 8th and 9th congressional districts.

There's your reason to care about state legislative races.

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Finally, in The Most Important News of the Day™ we have Joe Biden vs. Rep. Nathan Deal (R-Ga.).

Biden appeared on Thursday with Georgia Gov. Sonny Perdue (R) to tout the effects of the stimulus law in Rep. Nathan Deal's (R-Ga.) district.

Deal said he was caught off guard by the media event. He explained that had it not been for Perdue's office making a courtesy call, he would not have known Biden was planning to appear in his district.

~snip

Regardless of partisan politics, protocol dictates that the White House invite members of Congress to attend major administration events in their districts.

Deal voted against the stimulus bill, by the way.

Of course, this has got to be the least of Rep. Deal's worries.

According to records obtained by the AJC through the state's Open Records Act, both the Office of Congressional Ethics and the U.S. House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct have inquired about Deal's role in a 20-year business arrangement with the state that earned his company $1.5 million from 2004 through 2008.

Err... opps.

Have a good weekend, everyone.

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So I'm going to pick up a 12 pack (4.00 / 1)
and a roll of toilet paper in case I get snowed in.

I'm not blessed or merciful. I'm just me. I have a job to do and I do it.

eggs are good for the hangover (4.00 / 2)
all the silly people wondering why people get bread, milk and eggs: French Toast for breakfast

and Lieberman went home to CT

Pray for the dead and fight like hell for the living -- Mother Jones


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i hope it doesn't snow where i'm at (4.00 / 2)
because i did not make it to do any shopping. i've got a bunch of tamales i just bought at a fundraiser for the Hispanic Interest Coalition group. they are yabba dabba doo fantastic

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Gonna have to disagree on Franken (4.00 / 1)
I don't mind getting petty to make a point. This is sort of what I thought Progressivism was about, if we need to get petty or get down in the muck with Republicans to win, then we'll do it. I guess everyone has their own definition of what it means to be Progressive.

Like I said, I'm torn on it (4.00 / 2)
More fundamentally, though, the Senate is not currently the "greatest deliberative body in the world. It is a wind tunnel for the talking points of the day. In all honest, that is a critique of both sides. If they would STFU for a little while and hold some votes, they might not be in session Christmas Eve.

Just my two cents on the issue.

I'm not blessed or merciful. I'm just me. I have a job to do and I do it.


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well it was loser lobbyman (4.00 / 1)
i mean shmoe lieberman. and his great buddy mccain protecting him.

and then the hypocrisy of mcpalin.

let's just get on with it already.  

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that 2002 indidetn included (4.00 / 3)
McCain Cutting off Byrd yielding Dayton more time, in order to keep to "stict time" agreements.

I have a whole book full of Sen. Byrd speeches in the run up to the war, and he did want to slow things down. Obstructionist!

Pray for the dead and fight like hell for the living -- Mother Jones


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That's one reason I'm torn (4.00 / 2)
Since it wasn't Lieberman silencing Franken, I'm having a hard time building up my righteous liberal outrage.

I'm not blessed or merciful. I'm just me. I have a job to do and I do it.

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Any comment on the Liberal Uprising? (4.00 / 2)
Groups like FDL have been in tantrum mode for so long it's hard to really know when they truly mean it.  

My thoughts: (4.00 / 2)
The House bill was the best of the lot. I really think the Senate should have started from there.

At this point, killing the Senate bill might not be the best idea. If that happens, the House version is the last chance for any kind of reform and the likes of Lieberman and Nelson of Nebraska are probably not going to let that pass.

OTOH: there is always reconciliation and I think Reid should have pulled that trigger Oct. 15, which was the first day he could have done it.  

I'm not blessed or merciful. I'm just me. I have a job to do and I do it.


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Dylan Rattigan wow.. (4.00 / 2)
I like him a lot and his take-no-talking points style but that was excessive. 'Wall Street reflects the real world'? What a dangerous philosophy for governing. Dylan should apologize.

Okay, some of you are further south than I am (4.00 / 3)
A Barbour spokesman put it bluntly and broadly, "The governor hasn't pardoned anyone, be it alive or deceased. The governor isn't going to issue a pardon here."

What's up with this. I hate seeing his M-I-SS-SS-PP-I face at DC Gee Oh Pee pressers. Doesn't he have a hurricane revenged state to fix?

And then he started to. Over the last two years, as reported by the Jackson Free Press, Barbour has pardoned, granted clemency to, or suspended the sentences of at least five convicted murderers, four of whom killed their wives or girlfriends.
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None of these men were pardoned because of concerns that they didn't receive a fair trial or could be innocent. Instead, all five were enrolled in a prison trusty program that had them doing odd jobs around the Mississippi governor's mansion.

Innocent people on death row, and a corrupt forensic lab? Where have I heard that before? Oh, yea Texas and right here, West Virginia.

Pray for the dead and fight like hell for the living -- Mother Jones


sounds like par for the course in captial murder crazed states (4.00 / 2)
but i need to read about it before i comment any more

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sorry! (4.00 / 3)
slate.com
w/ Jackson, MS reporting

been doing it that way at at wvablue. no excuses.

Pray for the dead and fight like hell for the living -- Mother Jones


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