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Maddow: Democratic women will REVOLT over Stupak-Pitts if it is not removed in Conference

by: MinistryOfTruth

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Sun Nov 08, 2009 at 10:42:09 AM CST


      On Meet The Press today, Rachel Maddow made a point that should NOT be overlooked by Democrats in the House and Senate who wish to remian in their elected offices in 2010 and beyond, and that is the fact that if the Stupak-Pitts C Street anti abortion amendment in the House version of Health Care Reform is NOT removed if/when the bill goes to Conference to be merged with the Senate bill, there will be MASSIVE blowback for the Democratic party from it's female base.

H/t to DKos user Scarce for the video

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MinistryOfTruth :: Maddow: Democratic women will REVOLT over Stupak-Pitts if it is not removed in Conference
Maddow:     "The Stupak amendment . . . is the biggest restriction on abortion funding since the Hyde Amendment, it's the biggest restriction on abortion access in this country in a generation, if it took a Democratic President 60% majorities in the House and Senate are Democrats to get that I think you can expect Democratic women to sit on their hands at least, if not revolt if that doesn't get taken out in conference."

Editorial Note: I HATE Meet The Press, and the only reason I suject myself to it, or you, my dear readers, is for moments like these whn someone actually makes sense instead of echoing the "Dems are losing/The GOP is gonna win" talking points.

     Simply put, if women's rights are restricted by a Democratic Majority in Congress and a Democratic President in the White House, the women who make up the Democratic base will either sit n their hands in 2010 or hold a massive revolt which will cripple the Democrtaic party in future elections.

     Rachel Maddow is THE best journalist in American politics today, in my humble opinion, and I think she deserves a pulitzer prize for her reporting on the astroturf protests of the last year. Not only should she be a regular on Meet The Press, she should have David Gregory's job.

     But Rachel made two very salient points on the show today, and those were that Creigh Deeds lost in Virginia because he ran to the right of our President and his overwhelming popular agenda of reform, and that the more that Democrats legislate like Conservative Republicans, the less motivated their base will be in supporting them in elections in the future. As valuable as Independant voters are appealing to them should NOT trump keeping your base satisfied with the direction that your party is going in, and that means being LESS like your political opponents, not MORE like them.

     The bigger point, which ties into the first, is that Democrats can NOT continue to betray their base and expect them to support them, and that is proven by the Stupak-Pitts Amendment that was passed last night. If Democrats do something Republicans have not been able to for decades, which is to limit the rights of women's choice, there will, and SHOULD, be massive blowback. Women and Democrats did NOT hand Democrats huge majorities in order to legislate like Republicans, who are tremendously unpopular for a reason. This goes for LGBT rights, Torture Accountability, Wall St reforms and many, many other issues.

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    The political reality is that Democrats who win elections by narrow decisions BECAUSE of strong suppport from their bases, be it financial support, volunteer support and GOTV efforts. Those individual Democratic officials that spurn those bases WILL lose, because an energized Democrtaic base is what motivates undecided voters and independant voters to join our side. Without that motivation, Republicans WILL win those elections based on the fact that thrie hard core base (which is all that they have left) NEVER miss elections.

     In elections, often the difference comes down to which base wants to win more. By turning away the Democratic base and voting like Republicans, the Democrtaic party is shooting it's hunting partner in the face.

     The easiest way for Democrtas to LOSE elections is to not use the power given to them by their voters to enact policies that they run on. Let every Democrat in Congress beware on Stupak-Pitts, hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

   Crossposted at Daily Kos and Docudharma.com

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I like your diaries. Best. Blogger. Evah. ~ Alan Grayson on MoT

we need this bill (4.00 / 2)
and i don't want to lose it at this point. as one comment stated in your DK thread

But it would be easier for us to form groups to help fund abortions and have this bill passed then it would be to have no bill. These pseudo-religious a**holes will put on nasty theatrics with the intention of wholesale blockage of any health-care reform. I think it just might be better to get the bill passed and later try to get the funding. But the amendment still sucks. That is my humble opinion. And I fully realize that millions of people strongly disagree with me and I under stand the reason why completely.


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This amendment MUST Come out in Conference (0.00 / 0)
and it can NOT be allowed to e used as a condition to vote for the bill. If so, the Tent gets Burned down, cause we WILL lose BIG in 2010, and at that point we won't be needing Conservatives in Dems clothing for majorities we won't have anymore

I like your diaries. Best. Blogger. Evah. ~ Alan Grayson on MoT

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This is a fail (4.00 / 2)
For sure but it's not worth burning the tent for. It is a huge disappointment, but it's not the end of the World. It's another fail on the scorecard, and another sign that our work wasn't done 11/08 it was only getting started. I've learned a good lesson, none of my $$ is going to anti-choice Democrats... never again. Let someone else fund them..

It's a shame that these religious groups get their anti-abortion clause through, and we don't have similar groups (Quakers) to get the $680 Billion dollar Defense bill from passing. But burning our tent down only helps them win and furthers the antichoice power, lets build up our side of the tent.  


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Agreed. My passion is getting ahead of me (4.00 / 1)
but I think this iis proof enough that we need to dump a shitload of ConservaCrats in primaries next year. We'd be etter off with just the 218 than with the 39 fundie Dem hanger ons

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But we wouldn't be better off (4.00 / 2)
The committee assignments would get all fucked up. The committees are comprised at roughly the ratio of Dems to Repuglicans in the House. If you kick D's out and you give R's a better ratio and more control.

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DAMN IT Again! You got me there too (4.00 / 2)
You are sure proving the phrase "Cooler heads will prevail"

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WWCD (4.00 / 1)
What Would Curtis Do


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Thats a good question (4.00 / 1)
but Curtis' point of view isn't making the rec list. There's something to be said about MOT's dominance over there.

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It's not even that (4.00 / 1)
It's just that I went through the whole really angry thing yesterday, and I got a lot of it out of my system. Today I'm really angry at the anti-vaccine people. :)

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